DailyKos and the CIA

August 11th, 2007

In 2005, “I was content to say, ‘F*ck DailyKOS’ and move on.” As it turns out, there’s a bit more to it.

Make sure you listen to him speak for yourself. Some of the weaselly prick effect is lost when you just read the transcript.

Via: My Left Wing:

You know . . . coughs . . . I think a lot of the people that did have problems with the CIA, I mean it was a very vocal minority. I think most people really didn’t think about it all that much. Right? It wasn’t really on their radar screens, ah, in the way that now it is, because now we are in this huge war, and it was the CIA that was warning the Administration against invading because, there were no weapons of mass destruction.

Here’s a little secret I don’t think I’ve ever written about: But in 2001, I was unemployed, underemployed, unemployed. You know I was in that . . You all have been there “dot com” people? Kinda like, in between jobs, doin’ a little contract work and . . . kinda. So, you know. That’s where I was: in this really horrible netherworld of ‘will I make rent next month’ and . . .

So, I applied to the CIA and I went all the way to the end, I mean it was to the point where I was going to sign papers to become Clandestine Services. And it was at that point that the Howard Dean campaign took off and I had to make a decision whether I was gonna kinda join the Howard Dean campaign, that whole process, or was I was going to become a spy. (Laughter in the audience.) It was going to be a tough decision at first, but then the CIA insisted that if, if I joined that, they’d want me to do the first duty assignment in Washington, DC, and I hate Washington, DC. Six years in Washington, DC [inaudible] that makes the decision a lot easier.

[ . . .] This is a very liberal institution. And in a lot of ways, it really does attract people who want to make a better, you know, want to make the world a better place . . . Of course, they’ve got their Dirty Ops and this and that, right but as an institution itself the CIA is really interested in stable world. That’s what they’re interested in. And stable worlds aren’t created by destabilizing regimes and creating wars. Their done so by other means. Assassination labor leaders . . . I’m kidding!

[ . . . ] I don’t think it’s a very partisan thing to want a stable world. And even if you’re protecting American interests, I mean that can get ugly at times, but generally speaking I think their hearts in the right place. As an organization their heart is in the right place. I’ve never had any problem with the CIA. I’d have no problem working for them . .

5 Responses to “DailyKos and the CIA”

  1. tmb Says:

    Ah, Daily Kos, he can correct me if I am wrong but from what I know of the training there, as a good friend is quite familiar with it, his nutty statements make it likely the evidence might just prove he applied to and was “accepted” and still is receiving some “help” from his buds at Langley ala Mr. Pope of the Nat’l Enquirer who was a CIA Psych warfare expert and set up the rag w/CIA cash to discredit certain topics to cause them ridicule and to disappear same from mainstream discussion (UFOs, believed to exist and shot at by the military by the way, among others – i.e. Psych warfare on USA soil by the CIA = illegal activity now basically admitted and ignored as usual by the msm) no doubt he operates under some “operation” or other (CHAOS, GARDEN PLOT, COINTELPRO II etc.)

    To quote Al Pacino’s Tony Montana “I never liked heem . . .” – – He is a supposed “progressive liberal” (what does that mean anyway, we stay in Iraq another 50 years and have a STASI police state “democracy”?) but bans “conspiracy” discussion/people off his site, he’s a joke but now he’s the “official” spokesman for the “defined” limit of the “crazy” left – – Bill O’Reilly said so, get it? – thus it must be true that he is the “radical” left and his site has received millions of hits as a result of O’Reilly who is his “enemy” you can hear them yuking that one up at Langley (meanwhile they will never, and I mean NEVER, mention Anthony Sutton, a true patriot, who proved that Wall Street financed both Stalin and Hitler as well as the North Vietnamese working all against each other in a Hegelian Dialectic and making a “killing” on mass murder i.e. Sutton was willing to ruin his career – – he wasn’t going to be part of the “team” bought off nor at Langley to “quit” to go to work for the “Dean team” – – barf me, barf me . . .) – – yet again we see the Hegelian/Straussian dialectic in action “defining” what is “left” “progressive” “right” “fascist” “communist” etc. when you define and control both “sides”, as Anthony Sutton proved was/is going on w/the Wall Streeters, you (the old/new moneyed fascist elite) can’t lose, just the rest of us peons . . . See http://www.antonysutton.com/

    Possibly of note to others who consider themselves “progressives”, I noticed that I was unofficially/quietly banned at TPM from posting (which I only did maybe once every two weeks or so), a site I do/did like that has broken some nice Gonzales/firing prosecutor stuff (as I am a past prosecuting attorney/in the military at 18 type i.e. no “bleeding heart” hippy . . . and can’t believe the joke the “Department Of Justice (err, Department Of Rove)” has become . . .)but I believe the site is getting weaker, b/c I posted a few times on Operation Mockingbird, Chaos etc. and the fact that WaPo has many active writers who have been proven as compromised by the CIA etc. . . soon my postings didn’t “post” anymore, my emails as to why not went unanswered, I had become a “Kafka” roach I guess on the liberal site and “disappeared” w/o trial . . . my comments were not in any way ravings or abusive or offensive and they generally cited to sources like Bernstein’s Rolling Stone article on the CIA’s op Mockingbird etc., but it is clear that the site operator wants to be a part of the “respectable media” and even though they break stories that the MSM is seeemingly avoiding they will not actively and completely go after the phoney msm Wapo etc. or go toward the “conspiracy theoricist” area in step ala Chomsky, the Nation, Corn et al – – (Correct me if I am wrong but I believe Corn did some work for the State Dept that was very close to CIA type stuff and he will not tolerate any conspiracy JFK, RFK, MLK etc. type info as having any validity, the evidence of which he just ignores or misrepresents, nor will of course Chomsky who is the “elect” dissident for the USA, he can continue on “protesting” as long as he doesn’t come out and say that political assassination in the United States against effective activists/politicians(Wellstone, Lennon, etc.), and those who might become effective, opponents of the controling oligarchy is a cold hard bloody fact and as long as he continues to be so ineffective as a practical matter . . . MIT gets lots of “Defense” money also – – the whole thing of the phoney “Left v. Right” is so pathetic . . . They can all kiss my ass, the truth is there should be no designated “voice” of the people, b/c that voice won’t be “of the people” it will be bought and paid for, the voice of the people shows up in places like here where it is not receiving large shots of cash from the ruling elite thru the front or back door, correct me if I’m wrong and good night . . . .

  2. sharon Says:

    tmb, I’m thinking you may be right.

    One reason I’m thinking this is the way some “progressive” sites have dismissed the idea of a general strike–and at least one deleted my post, when I posted about it.

    I’m wondering if some of these sites are designed to defuse meaningful action–let people vent, but discourage and ridicule them, if they happen to get the idea they’d like to do something.

  3. tmb Says:

    @ Sharon

    I totally agree with you – – we know for a fact that the CIA and other “intelligence” agencies have spent billions in both “black” and non-black ops on mind/population control projects and used the Nazi scientists brought over thru Operation Paperclip to continue those projects started with Hitler’s mad scientists and psychiatrists 60 years ago – – thru psychiatric hospitals worldwide and other “front” institutions.

    So the big question is: Where are the evil “fruits” of those projects? I beleve they are right in our face any time you turn on the mind control machine (TV) on FOX News, CNN, the sit coms “reflecting life as it should be back to us – – no politically active people ever shown, beer drinking loser men, effeminate “sensitive” losers etc. (if you have been to Europe you will find that on CNN there you get a completely different slant than is presented here i.e. the propaganda of the USA version becomes extremely visible) and I agree with your insight that the “progressive” sites and many high profile “progressives” are controlled (ala what we now know of the financing of the National Enquirer by the CIA – – Google also seemed to have some early ties with the intelligence community financing etc. and some of these others so I believe the true level of “control” is way beyond anything we could truly believe or accept if we really knew . . .sort of like the old “Prisoner” british tv show long ago)i.e. they spout off on some topics and allow millions of citizens upset w/the “system” to spout off but nothing ever comes of it and the country continues marching into a complete and total fascist police state of total surveillance/state dominance where a very small percentage of the population own/control nearly everything and are in the process of taking the rest including our “public” lands etc.

    The choices for president come down to Bush or Clinton or whoever else they deem acceptable who is a CFR, Bilderberg etc. stooge and who fully accepts the military/industrial/intelligence complexes’ full and total domination of our society and the resulting global mass murder that keeps their profits high and control in place.

    With all the money poured into these “control” projects they would have to be sophisticated (which is why always we here how “incompetent” our intelligence agencies and the FBI, Bush etc. are – – that is a psych warfare cover/ploy) and I think the blip as to Kos’ came out w/his admission b/c they knew that it was going to come out some other way w/a much bigger “splash” so they controlled the disclosure w/his bs presentation.

    They want absolutely all discussion of political assassination (especially in the USA), mind control, rigged elections, and the control of the country by the weapons manufacturers/murderers/drug lords in the USA to be ignored/ridiculed and marginalized and these “progressive” sites including “The Nation” magazine do this extremely well. (Check out who mainly funds this rag and the other supposed “left” mags and it will always be foundations that at bottom are funded by fascists and “conspiracy theoricists” are always ridiculed and attacked – – see Gary Webb’s character assassination and where he now resides along w/many other true investigative journalists). The fact is trillions of dollars have been spent on projects the “results” of which we, the taxpayers, have never been informed of – – my position is we are seeing the evil “fruits” right in front of us every day in the dumbed down obese porn obsessed “culture” we now live in . . . .

  4. Angelo Says:

    “….the dumbed down obese porn obsessed “culture” we now live in . . . .”

    “… obese porn obsessed “culture” …”

    “… porn obsessed “culture” . . . .”

    “…obsessed “culture”…”

  5. BigDaddyMalcontent Says:

    tmb & Sharon are onto something. I place Crooks & Liars in the same category. They post these sensational headlines debunking this or that “conspiracy” theory and then delete any comment that takes issue with the post. The funny thing is, with Time or Newsweek, etc., you can look at the masthead, find out who the publisher is, employ a little research and deductive reasoning and figure out the bias. With C&L, there is no ‘masthead’ — no ‘about’ link. All you know is that John Amato, the site’s owner, is the ex-saxaphone player for Duran Duran, and even that fact requires a little digging.
    Who are the site monitors? What is the reasoning behind their decision to place all conspiracy theories in the Bigfoot category, and to delete all comments even mildly supportive of a particular “conspiracy” theory? C&L, Daily Kos, et al. are becoming indistinguishable from my local daily newspaper. At least once a week, I read something infuriating enough to inspire a letter to the editor, which never gets printed or responded to.
    It’s alarming to see how rapidly the lefty blogosphere is being co-opted. It’s like watching this cute, promising sprout grow into a huge, pain-in-the-ass bramble.

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