Why Is Vladimir Putin Referring to Eastern Ukraine as ‘New Russia’?

August 30th, 2014

Western elites stole Ukraine from a deranged dictator with a bogus populist uprising. Now, kleptocrat Putin is stealing it back with irregulars, mercenaries, and tanks.

Don’t come to the conclusion that Putin is some sort of good guy. Putin is just like Western elites, but with a more direct approach, and what amounts to a personal arsenal of nuclear weapons. There are no good guys here. Murders? Yes. Thieves? Yes. And on both sides.

I very seriously doubt that the U.S.-led gang will do anything real about this. Putin could roll over the whole of Ukraine in a day if he wanted to. Obama just keeps golfing because he has probably been advised that this isn’t worth a thermonuclear exchange. You win some you lose some. Move on, pick another victim. Protip: Make sure the next victim doesn’t have a competing gang with nuclear weapons.

Putin said it himself yesterday, “It’s best not to mess with us… Thank God, I think no one is thinking of unleashing a large-scale conflict with Russia. I want to remind you that Russia is one of the leading nuclear powers.”

Yep, the managers of that idiot Obama better make sure he remains on the golf course this time. Or maybe point and click the drones to go take out some of those ISIS maniacs. It’s only costing $7.5 million per day to bomb a problem that the U.S. created in the first place. Bargains, bargains.

All of that said, here’s what I wrote to a family member with a Russian girlfriend:

“I’d seriously consider getting her and her money out of there ASAP. You wouldn’t want her to be in Putin-Land or holding Putin-Bucks if this thing gets any worse.”

Via: IB Times:

In a new statement, the Kremlin has detailed Russian President Vladimir Putin’s address to pro-Russian separatists battling Kiev’s force in eastern Ukraine, which referred to the rebels as “the militia of New Russia” or “Novorossiya”.

This term is not a new addition to the Russian leader’s personal lexicon. In a televised question and answer session in April in the midst of the Crimea crisis, Putin told the audience, in reference to the restive eastern regions of Ukraine: “It’s new Russia.”

This phrase has raised fears about Putin’s territorial ambitions in the former Soviet Union but what does this term really mean?

“Novorossiya”, which translates as New Russia, is a historical term for a region conquered by the Russian empire in the 18th century and controlled by Tsarist Russia in the 19th Century.

In the same Q&A, Putin uttered “God knows” why the “New Russian” regions became Ukrainian territory in the 1920s.

Related:

What Does Russia Tell the Mothers of Soldiers Killed in Ukraine? Not much.

Russian Reporters ‘Attacked at Secret Soldier Burials’

21 Responses to “Why Is Vladimir Putin Referring to Eastern Ukraine as ‘New Russia’?”

  1. Shikar Says:

    “Putin is just like Western elites, but with a more direct approach”

    I can’t agree with that. I don’t think Putin is at all like Western elites who are largely raging psychopaths of the most dangerous kind. While he is not necessarily a “good guy” in that he is very much in favour of the system as we know it, he is most certainly the best we have in countering such forces at the present time. And he can be judged by how he has handled the intense US-NATO push to demonise Russia which he clearly believes in. He is also fully aware of what it could mean should Russia adopt the same tactics as Anglo-American-Zionist influences.

    Let’s not underestimate just how intense the full might of Western/Zionist propaganda which has proven time and time again a huge pack of lies. The Russian invasion by proxy is more of the same. While there is no way he can stop individuals from crossing the border to fight, it is not in his style to mandate a such military skirmishes. He is ex-KGB and very far from stupid. He’s and excellent tactician and strategist and knows that he only need wait for Kiev to fall into its own footprint – which is exactly how it’s playing out.

    Aleksandr Zakharchenko of the Council of Ministers of the Donetsk People’s Republic pretty much reiterates this view regarding the suggestion of Russia’s involvement on the ground:

    “If you think that Russia is sending its regular units here, then let me tell you something. If Russia was sending its regular troops, we wouldn’t be talking about the battle of Elenovka here. We’d be talking about a battle of Kiev or a possible capture of Lvov.

    Now there is a war on our soil for our territory. We have an influx of volunteers from all over the world. Of course, the Russian help would be very desirable, but from a political point of view it is impossible and unrealistic.”

    You’re not going to find anything very representative in the UK-US media on this point any time soon.

  2. NH Says:

    I’ll second Shikar’s thoughts.

    Kevin, your intelligence and integrity shine out like a beacon from the dozen years of incredible effort you’ve made to raise awareness here on Cryptogon. But the idea that Putin is just another of the elite psychopathic monsters sucking the life out of the world is not accurate.

    “good guy” doesn’t seem appropriate, but compared to most of the other puppet statesman, maybe it is. I encourage readers who haven’t, to watch some of Putin’s interviews and press conferences.

    Here is the press conference where Shikar’s quote of Aleksandr Zakharchenko comes from, around minute 14:

    http://vineyardsaker.blogspot......y-top.html

  3. Kevin Says:

    “good guy” doesn’t seem appropriate, eh?

    How about murderous bastard:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.....onflict.29

    Kevin, your intelligence and integrity shine out like a beacon from the dozen years of incredible effort you’ve made to raise awareness here on Cryptogon.

    I guess it’s a good thing I didn’t try to do it from Russia:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-28583669

    Wow.

  4. Kevin Says:

    We are hurtling back into a Soviet abyss, into an information vacuum that spells death from our own ignorance. All we have left is the internet, where information is still freely available. For the rest, if you want to go on working as a journalist, it’s total servility to Putin. Otherwise, it can be death, the bullet, poison, or trial—whatever our special services, Putin’s guard dogs, see fit.

    —Anna Politkovskaya

  5. cryingfreeman Says:

    Shikar, I’m writing as one who has been married to a Russian for almost a decade and who has a bit of an insight into their language and culture. Whereas in the West the corporate mafia elites own the governments, in Russia it’s less discreet than that; the mafia elites *are* the actual government. And I make no distinction between the KGB (of which some 75% of officials in the Kremlin were members of, as of 2008) and the Russian mafia.

    Putin is a fake conservative, a pretend Christian, and as much an advocate of democracy as Stalin. Russia today is a country with de facto one party rule in place of the USSR’s de jure one party rule. As in the old days, dissent is still punished by punitive psychiatry, banishment to Siberia or assassination. And just as the US has its NDAA horror, so Russia has a law allowing Putin to have anyone anywhere on the planet liquidated for such a heinous act as “besmirching the reputation of Russia or one of its officials”.

    Think of it another way. Do you believe a group of committed idealogues all underwent a collective epiphany at the same time and forsook their religion of communism? Or do you think it’s a bit odd that so many of the communist regime’s enforcement arm (the KGB) are now running a militarily resurgent Russia that has ordered over 50 new warships to be ready by 2020 and that has modernised its strategic missile forces while ours in the West have largely stood still?

    And then we have the security threat to Europe that is the Russian mafia. In more or less every major European city, they avail of the services of highly skilled ex military operators within their ranks. If you knew Russia, you would know that many if not all of the major gangs answer to the Kremlin. Of what utility do you suppose they would be to Putin in the buildup to a major war in Europe?

    Putin’s doctrine is called Eurasianism (which is a nicer term surely than the old Soviet “internationalism”), and some of its chief goals are:

    The de-Atlanticisation of Europe = removal of US and UK influence over the continent.
    The seduction of Germany and perhaps France with a view to their neutrality in the event of war and subsequent trading partners thereafter.
    The soft penetration of Europe through finance, gas and oil commerce (not being happy to just supply gas, they have been buying up the pipelines downstream).
    The establishment of an alternative exchange mechanism to the London-Wall St one.
    The incitement of moral disgust at home and in Europe at Anglo-US adventurism, a goal aided in no small part by the sheer badness of the US and UK in bullying the world.
    The distraction and then destruction of the patriot movement in the US in part of a skilfully managed counter revolution designed to weaken what remains of American paleoconservatism.
    The pre-emptive decapitating engagement of a distracted and emaciated American military.

    The dissident literature often spoke of these things, but now the Kremlin openly says them through its academics. Russia thus continually threatens the Baltic states with invasion (verbal threats and exercises) on the basis of how badly its dispersed children living there are treated (and tellingly, Germany often looks the other way when these threats are complained about by the Baltics). Putin and his gang also talk in glowing terms of “the good old days” of the USSR and have equated Stalin’s Great Terror with the USA’s nuking of Hiroshima or Nagasaki in an effort to absolve the USSR of exceptional guilt.

    So that’s Putin and his great Russia for you.

  6. tm Says:

    Nice bit of neocon propaganda there, cryingfreeman. Your wife must be one of those typically sour-dispositioned Russian women who constantly complain of what no-goodniks Russian menfolk are. Being eternally bitter, when they marry Sugar Daddy American husbands, they usually soon tire of them as well. Have fun in divorce court.

  7. Shikar Says:

    No one is saying that Putin is an ideal or that Russian society is perfect or that ponerized elements are not operating within his country.
    I’m quite sure that they are. I also don’t doubt that Putin has an ego on him the size of Mt. Etna but one thing he is not is reckless or stupid, nor do I think that he is a psychopath. I base that on evidence carefully sifted keeping in mind the game plan for Russia and the Israeli Mossad formula for long standing pattern of interference with propaganda and psyops featuring heavily.

    The picture is much, MUCH more complicated than your analysis indicates cryingfreeman; a book could be written on just two of these points alone. And I think you have vacuumed up a large chunk of propaganda yourself in your reply.

    The long term presence of fifth column military and the influence of Russian-Zionist mafia, Chabad Lubavitch and Israel’s geopolitical passions in the region as a whole is vital to take into account. Russian Zionists have had a foothold in Russia for a long, long time just as they have in Ukraine. To that end, expect to see false flag and social unrest within Russia next year.

    Regarding the tragic death of Anna Politkovskaya – not least Litvinenko – it makes no sense at all for a master strategist like Putin to off his most vocal critics, especially since Politkovskaya’s influence on Russian politics was minimal at best. He would see that to assassinate such a person would do far more harm than good to the Russian government’s image. I simply don’t buy it. See Joe Quinn’s excellent analysis on this for further information: http://www.sott.net/article/12.....on-Part-1#

    The Zionist Establishment and their proxies have everything to gain by having the Great Bear under their control – much like the fully ponerised West. Demonisation by deception is always the name of the game if global conquest is the ultimate goal.

    Putin is no saviour, censorship and oligarchical battles acknowledged he’s the only thing stopping the pathocratic gravy train from running us all into an abyss right now, and for that reason alone, the Russian propaganda which is at stratospheric levels must be countered.

  8. cryingfreeman Says:

    @ tm: Well, that’s a bit below the belt. Could you not have at least attempted a rational refutation before launching into the hate-filled ad hominems?

    The problem is you don’t actually know what you’re talking about. For one, neoconservatives are not conservative at all (they’re more like fascists) and serve as the mouthpieces of the criminal elite who run the West and the last thing they are doing is telling us about Russia’s true nature. Secondly, true conservatives (of whom there are very few left) are called paleoconservatives. Thirdly, I’m British, not American (just FYI).

    Sure, the West is goading Russia with missile shields, encirclement with bases everywhere, and meddling in eastern Europe. But Russia is a predatory power also, every bit as much as the Anglos are (and the Chinese for that matter). You need to go and read some defector materials from the Cold War to see how the long term goals of the Soviets are now being fulfilled, both in the West and in Russia. The defectors have largely been right so far. If events continue to prove them right, then you can look forward to a war the like of which the world has never seen.

    Now none of that is propaganda. It’s just how it really is.

  9. tm Says:

    Cryingfreeman: I apologize for bringing your wife into this; that was somewhat of a cheap shot. It just sounded as if you were suggesting that being married to a Russian woman somehow made you an expert Kremlinologist.

    But your suggestion that Russian sympathizers (and I know what you’re getting at. i.e. Pat Buchanan)are responsible for the death of American paleo-conservatism struck me as utterly absurd. And no, I don’t believe for one moment that Russia has the ambitions for global hegemony that the United States has.

  10. cryingfreeman Says:

    @ shikar: It’s not propaganda if it’s really happening. I’d love to know what part of my post was parroted propaganda, and even more so, from whom it has been relayed. Because nobody in the Western media that I know of is saying what I said.

    However, I’m glad to see you note Russia’s own propaganda prowess. They are masters at “desinformatsiya” and are winning over the conservatives and many others with apparent ease at the moment, naturally helped by the debacle of the Anglos’ disastrous attempt at passing off 9-11 as a real terror event.

  11. NH Says:

    Wikipedia is useful in many cases–even the BBC, when consumed with an even bigger grain of salt. The list of dead journalists is horrendous. But, what is the truth of their deaths? From near the end of part two in Shikar’s linked article: “The era of mere ‘double agents’ is long since gone it seems. In today’s world we must try to wrap our brains around not ‘double’ but at least ‘quadruple agents’, individuals who are used, abused and often sacrificed by their Russian, Israeli, British or American oligarch masters in the hope that they can spin a web so complex that no one will see the men behind the curtain”

    Russia has several powerful factions–Putin’s ascendancy was regime change away from, but not full escape from, the eight oligarch pillage and rape system that had been helped into place by the BPMIC (banker political military industrial complex) a decade before. Russia was within inches of being erased from the World. A key point to understand is that Russia is not the Soviet Union. The Bolsheviks went to war against Russian society when they came to power, but were unable to destroy it–that society is gradually becoming more visible again. The bankers in particular hate Putin for what he’s done. As one example, when Khodorkovsky of Yukos fame was arrested, it immediately came to light that he was a frontman for Rothschild. Since we allow the central bankers to create our money (the ultimate ring of power), they have come to control most of the media and our politicians. The headlines we get in all our big periodicals and newspapers? PUTIN IS THE DEVIL.

    We had regime change here in the U.S on 9/11. The banker’s chickenhawk Neocon henchmen took the reins and here we are 13 years later, with a string of destroyed countries under our belt, but still looking for more. Iran has so far escaped, in no small part due to resistance from good people in our military–thanks Admiral (not on my watch) Fallon, et al. Will the kernal that survives of Russia’s soul also escape their destruction? Will we get to the bottom of WTC 7? What about no fighter intercepts of the hijacked planes for over an hour after the first tower was struck? Will we vote all the congresscritters and senators back into office next election, after their unopposed vote supporting the latest Gaza slaughter?

    Questions, questions.

  12. Shikar Says:

    @cryingfreeman:

    “However, I’m glad to see you note Russia’s own propaganda prowess.”

    I must disappoint you on that score since my last two sentences should have read: “…the propaganda AGAINST Russia which is at stratospheric levels, must be countered.”

    Unless you incorporate Israel’s enormous role on the geo-poltiical stage and that Neo-Conservatives are in fact Zio-Conservatives; a very large piece of the puzzle will remain missing from your analysis.

    Most of the designs that you have listed as an evil plot by the Kremlin appear to be a very welcome antidote to what has characterised decades of a Western economic pathocracy which has made the planet a complete socio-political disaster.

    That is not to say that a mix of Fabianism and cultural Marxism does not exist in the US – it does, but Putin and present day Russia has very little to do with it. Zionism on the other hand, is another matter.You lack of comment on this belies your huge underestimation of just how pathological the western military-intelligence apparatus has become.

    US-NATO are desperate for a new cold war for goodness sake! This has been part of the Wolfowitz Doctrine and Zbigniew Brzezinski’s wet dream since Carter. An inverted totalitarianism shape shifts according to whatever label is useful. And I am quite sure that a hybrid mix of corporatism and Marxism does exist, just as strains of European Synarchy still exist. But to focus on Putin and Russia as the sources is to misunderstand the nature of Western pathocracy, in my view.

    You might consider reading: “The War Against Putin: What the Government-Media Complex Isn’t Telling You About Russia” By M.S. King in order to see it from the other side.

    Or perhaps it would be useful for others’ as I fear I won’t change your mind on this…

    I wish you well nonetheless.

  13. NH Says:

    Here’s a youth educational forum from two days ago in Russia, featuring Putin in a two and a half hour question and answer session with a whole bunch of Russian youth and young educators–the tenth in a series.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0stuDpk318

    Video highlights:Russian political system :28 min
    Crimea :56 min 1:51 hr 2:03 hr
    Russian historical memory 1:38 hr

    It reminds me of the Dr Ron Paul college campus rallies before our last electoral farce. The 77 year old long-term Republican incumbent congressman would regularly draw 5, 6 or 8 thousand students, so many that the gatherings needed to be held in sports stadiums. Contrast that with another Republican contender at the time, Mitt Romney, who would regularly draw in the low hundreds–or much less.

    My view is that college students have a very good sense of when they are looking at and listening to a liar. Putin’s approval rating in Russia is now at an all-time high of the mid eighties. I challenge anyone to watch even a portion of this forum and come away believing that Putin is equivalent to the sociopathic empty suits who have reached the pinnacles of political position here in the West.

    Since sociopaths/psychopaths are drawn to and seek out positions of power and influence, maybe multipolarity in the distribution of power between countries is our only way forward, even in the age of nuclear weapons.

  14. Dennis Says:

    Best discussion on cryptogon in ages.

  15. cryingfreeman Says:

    @ Shikar: That’s disappointing, because if you lived in Russia every day you would be subjected to an unchallenged stream of nationalistic fervour, personality cultism, martial muscle flexing, and an intensifying campaign to adjust the senses of the Russian people to the thought of major war. Even Stalin knew it was better to invoke the glories of Mother Russia than the ostensible virtues of communism in the Great Patriotic War.

    Maybe I need to put everything another way. I don’t believe the collapse of the USSR was anything but a choreographed strategic move by the communists, a bit like a master chess player sacrificing his queen. It gave them a real chance to penetrate Europe with their fifth columnist mafia, politician-buying business deals and displaced peoples in a sneaky strategy to justify one day invading eastern Europe in what will likely start as a humanitarian mission and escalate to a full-on military adventure.

    @ NH: Young Russians might admire Putin, but many if not most of them are privately terrified of him. The coarse language he uses in formal interviews when displeased… could you ever imagine even our scumbag leaders describing something as sh** on camera? Of course, he can get away with that because he (with the gang he fronts) wields absolute power. Sure, some dissent is allowed. But it’s owned dissent, limited hangout material. Get too close to the juice and you get the Anna Politkovskaya treatment.

    Now here’s some nice tinfoil material you might like to look into. One of the Kremlin ideologues, a guy called Mikhail Yuriev wrote a novel in 2006 called “The Third Empire: The Russia That Should Be” and in it, uncannily enough, he wrote about a Ukrainian crisis caused by a government upheaval there leading to civil conflict in the Russian-speaking regions of eastern Ukraine that induce Russia to dash to their aid. The book’s author was former vice chancellor of the Duma (which makes him a Putin-ista), and the cover of the book features some salient comments from the Rasputin-like Alexander Dugin, a rabid Russian imperialist and some time adviser to Valdimir Putin. His commendation on the back of the book reads: “This is a (vision of) Russia we should kill and die for”.

    Maybe the most interesting part of the novel (which, incidentally, is allegedly often quoted by Putin), is what comes after the Ukraine situation is resolved in Russia’s favour. Here’s a clue: it involves lots of mushroom clouds and a broken America. Of course, that novel is pure propaganda.

  16. quintanus Says:

    Well, one thing I’ve wondered about has been the influence of pro-russian news or perspectives on American websites such as Alex Jones and Infowars (the name, sounds like a synonym for ‘propaganda’). It is trickier to recognize than during the Cold War because the marxist perspective is distinct and easy to recognize, while the current position of Russian government is a bit murkiers. But, who benefits when americans start to get a sense of ‘doom’ or collapse just around the corner. That sounds like something that would benefit Russia, or at least keep american consumers out of the malls. Actually, while Alex Jones has his unique style and voice, I’d say half his material overlaps with the Larouche campaign – they both share the focus with the British Royal family + a few other families as the source of evil, they consider climate change to be a propaganda campaign to disempower third worlders, they talk a lot about collapse. Larouche (who is actually still alive) has a weird mixed background of both fascism and marxism, and ended up with his own odd set of ideas, and he has praised Russia for standing up to western banks and dominance. Russia itself is sort of a authoritarian right/left hybrid these days – many people can’t tell if it is communism or what that Putin wants. http://rense.com/general11/rus.htm

    Also, if you witness how much Russia Today stories are featured on Alex Jones, and RT has shows for certain doomers that Jones has featured such as Max Keiser. So doesn’t the show function the same way as a psychological campaign that our U.S. special forces might try to start in another country?

  17. Windhorse Says:

    Castro attacked the West for its “cynicism” and said that it became “a symbol of imperialist policy.”
    Our men in Havana: US used young Latinos to foment revolutionary moods in Cuba
    “The world has seen no respite in recent years, particularly since the European Economic Community, under the strict and unconditional leadership of the United States, decided the time had come to settle scores with what was left of two great nations (Russia and China) that… had carried out the heroic deed of putting an end to the imperialist colonial order imposed on the world by Europe and the United States,” Castro said.
    Instead of promoting conflicts, the governments should “introduce more food, build hospitals and schools for the billions of human beings who desperately need them,” the Cuban leader believes.
    Castro stressed that Cuba will continue to resist the US, despite the costs to the Cuban economy due to the US embargo, saying that “there is no worse price than capitulating before an enemy who attacks you without any right to do so.”

  18. apethought Says:

    Nope, everybody has it wrong. Putin isn’t a just counterweight to Western hegemony, nor is he simply one more power-hungry plutocrat.

    He’s actually a crime fighter with a shadowy past using his menagerie of super-powered animals to battle the forces of darkness and the alien swarm led by Mantis.

    Or that’s the story in Putin Pals at least – http://putinpals.com/

    Sorry for the off-topic promotion, but I think satire is a legitimate form of resistance.

  19. Windhorse Says:

    “Sorry for the off-topic promotion, but I think satire is a legitimate form of resistance”

    Resistance to what exactly?

  20. apethought Says:

    @Windhorse

    Resistance to the whole Masters of the Universe/Great Men of History paradigm that dominates our discourse about world events. Even oppositional movements like Occupy or We Are Change tend to talk about world leaders like they really are super-powerful, extraordinary individuals. Narcissist like Putin are legitimately threatened by anything that contradicts their carefully-crafted images. That’s why artists like Konstantin Altunin or Pussy Riot are harassed in Russia.

  21. Windhorse Says:

    @apethought

    Most of the world leaders are simply stooges of the Shadow Masters ….I hope we can agree on that basis. And historically there certainly have been extraordinary, super-powerful men who have changed the course of history. Attributing the description of narcissistic to a person should be done after direct contact in my opinion. How did your meeting with Vlad go otherwise?

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