I wonder how the techno-science-worhsippers will respond to this information? Oh yeah, I forgot, with screaming hysterical name-calling as usual. Can’t let anything get in the way of that huge ego-investment in the techno-industrial empire now, can we? 🙂
A web friend of mine in the UK has been sending me articles for years now re vaccines and the link to autism.
I sent her this link.
This is an outrage.
I don’t have kids and am too old to have them, but I’d be having a cow right now if otherwise.
Protecting a child from a disease is one thing, but destroying their ability to function fully in their lives in the process of doing so is another issue altogether. Dya think?
So, the CDC talking head said that “33,000 children are saved annually by vaccination.”
The US birth rate is about 14 births/1000 population, so about 4.25 million births per year. 33,000 is about .8%. So, if you believe the “33K saved”, we knowingly enganger 2% of the population to save .8%? Let’s say, just for argument, that the 33K number is inflated; then the deal looks worse and worse.
The other shocking thing I found in researching this? In terms of infant mortality, what of the Most Greatest-est Awesome Country The World Has Ever Known?
Loveandlight, that link you posted made want to put my keyboard thru the the screen – is that emotional enough? I think the writer of the article,”PalMD” summed it up in one line: “Look, I’m actually a fan of a lot of the politics…”
For so many doctors I think that’s what it comes down to – politics, along with knowing who butters their bread, ego, emotional investment (even though they are apparently “scientific” and not susceptible to such a thing as emotions influencing their stance on issues), habit, etc.
Just tonight there was a thing on the program Catalyst on ABC TV in Australia on Type I diabetes, specifically on an operation being experimented here to replace Islet cells in the pancreas, to try to get it to produce insulin again. I mean, if the operation was straight forward and with no complications, sure, it could make many peoples’ lives so much easier and healthier (my partner has Type 1 and I can assure you, it’s no picnic). But obviously there would be the chance of complications and probably a liftime supply of medications to be taken to make sure the cells weren’t rejected, along with a sh*tload of antibiotics, etc. But I guess the sound of a promising, magical fix is always more appealing… plus, it’s also a nice plug for genetic engineering… (“Islets taken from pigs are genetically engineered in the laboratory”)
Why not just admit that they KNOW what causes Diabetes, just like they know what causes cancer, bone degenrative diseases, etc etc. Instead, like in the case of Autism, everyone just “knows” that these are all “mystery illnesses” that we (they) “have to conquer once and for all” – genetic defects of the human species in need of the imminent perfection of a “promising operation that could save thousands of lives” (endless funding and new drugs), and not a sign that our very lifestyles and diet are upside down.
My sis is deciding whether or not her daughter gets her vaccinations before enrolling her in primary school for next year. She (and I thought this was true, as well) was under the impression that vaccinations were compulsory for school. Well, actually, a form that she was mailed out by some official place (the education goons, I guess) explicitly stated so. Her GP backed it up and so did the school she was looking into.
For anyone in Australia concerned about or against vaccinations, please research first – don’t take their word that they are compulsory.
On it, there’s a link to a downladable PDF form entitled, “Immunisation exemption – Conciencious objection form.” (I also rmember reading that you can lodge a Statutory Declaration instead, if you don’t want to use their stationery.)
Funny that no public services, including social insecurity, tells anyone about this little form.
Apparently it’s as simple as that. You can still claim any benefits, etc from Centrelink. I must admit, though, it makes me wonder what type of list you would be on, or what sort of flags would show up on the computers once this form is lodged..
nz is almost as bad.
when you first enroll a child in school, they require a doctor’s certificate stating which vaccinations have been received and when.
if you are on the ball and have a chat to an open-minded doctor, you will figure out that all these vaccinations listed on the form are not compulsory. but the way it is structured implies you have to have them to put the kid into school.
it isn’t true. the school is required by law to keep this certificate in its records so that they know who has been vaccinated for what. it’s just a declaration. they can’t refuse to enroll a child because they have not been vaccinated. as long as you supply the certificate, they have to accept the enrollment.
but most people would assume the list of vaccinations are compulsory, and do them all.
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I wonder how the techno-science-worhsippers will respond to this information? Oh yeah, I forgot, with screaming hysterical name-calling as usual. Can’t let anything get in the way of that huge ego-investment in the techno-industrial empire now, can we? 🙂
A web friend of mine in the UK has been sending me articles for years now re vaccines and the link to autism.
I sent her this link.
This is an outrage.
I don’t have kids and am too old to have them, but I’d be having a cow right now if otherwise.
Protecting a child from a disease is one thing, but destroying their ability to function fully in their lives in the process of doing so is another issue altogether. Dya think?
So, the CDC talking head said that “33,000 children are saved annually by vaccination.”
The US birth rate is about 14 births/1000 population, so about 4.25 million births per year. 33,000 is about .8%. So, if you believe the “33K saved”, we knowingly enganger 2% of the population to save .8%? Let’s say, just for argument, that the 33K number is inflated; then the deal looks worse and worse.
The other shocking thing I found in researching this? In terms of infant mortality, what of the Most Greatest-est Awesome Country The World Has Ever Known?
We’re #32! America, F**k Yeah!
Loveandlight, that link you posted made want to put my keyboard thru the the screen – is that emotional enough? I think the writer of the article,”PalMD” summed it up in one line: “Look, I’m actually a fan of a lot of the politics…”
For so many doctors I think that’s what it comes down to – politics, along with knowing who butters their bread, ego, emotional investment (even though they are apparently “scientific” and not susceptible to such a thing as emotions influencing their stance on issues), habit, etc.
Just tonight there was a thing on the program Catalyst on ABC TV in Australia on Type I diabetes, specifically on an operation being experimented here to replace Islet cells in the pancreas, to try to get it to produce insulin again. I mean, if the operation was straight forward and with no complications, sure, it could make many peoples’ lives so much easier and healthier (my partner has Type 1 and I can assure you, it’s no picnic). But obviously there would be the chance of complications and probably a liftime supply of medications to be taken to make sure the cells weren’t rejected, along with a sh*tload of antibiotics, etc. But I guess the sound of a promising, magical fix is always more appealing… plus, it’s also a nice plug for genetic engineering… (“Islets taken from pigs are genetically engineered in the laboratory”)
Why not just admit that they KNOW what causes Diabetes, just like they know what causes cancer, bone degenrative diseases, etc etc. Instead, like in the case of Autism, everyone just “knows” that these are all “mystery illnesses” that we (they) “have to conquer once and for all” – genetic defects of the human species in need of the imminent perfection of a “promising operation that could save thousands of lives” (endless funding and new drugs), and not a sign that our very lifestyles and diet are upside down.
Anyway, I know that idea is nothing new here.
My sis is deciding whether or not her daughter gets her vaccinations before enrolling her in primary school for next year. She (and I thought this was true, as well) was under the impression that vaccinations were compulsory for school. Well, actually, a form that she was mailed out by some official place (the education goons, I guess) explicitly stated so. Her GP backed it up and so did the school she was looking into.
For anyone in Australia concerned about or against vaccinations, please research first – don’t take their word that they are compulsory.
Take a look at this page:
http://www.medicareaustralia.gov.au/public/services/acir/family-assist.shtml
On it, there’s a link to a downladable PDF form entitled, “Immunisation exemption – Conciencious objection form.” (I also rmember reading that you can lodge a Statutory Declaration instead, if you don’t want to use their stationery.)
Funny that no public services, including social insecurity, tells anyone about this little form.
This page also seems to have some good info: http://www.futurefamilies.com.au/resources.html
Apparently it’s as simple as that. You can still claim any benefits, etc from Centrelink. I must admit, though, it makes me wonder what type of list you would be on, or what sort of flags would show up on the computers once this form is lodged..
For you Australians, also have a look at this page which states Thiomersol has been removed from all vaccines for under 8’s.
http://www.ncirs.usyd.edu.au/facts/f-thiomersal.html
nz is almost as bad.
when you first enroll a child in school, they require a doctor’s certificate stating which vaccinations have been received and when.
if you are on the ball and have a chat to an open-minded doctor, you will figure out that all these vaccinations listed on the form are not compulsory. but the way it is structured implies you have to have them to put the kid into school.
it isn’t true. the school is required by law to keep this certificate in its records so that they know who has been vaccinated for what. it’s just a declaration. they can’t refuse to enroll a child because they have not been vaccinated. as long as you supply the certificate, they have to accept the enrollment.
but most people would assume the list of vaccinations are compulsory, and do them all.