“For my 1 year old daughter, a magazine is an iPad that does not work. It will remain so for her whole life. Steve Jobs has coded a part of her OS.”
That is phenomenally sad statement for a parent to make, on a variety of levels. I have an idea for this, apparently, concerned mother: Maybe you shouldn’t let a child who is still making very basic cognitive connections between her mind and the world around her play with a FUCKING IPAD!!!! Maybe, just maybe, there is such a thing as being too young (and therefore not yet developmentally ready) to interact with the omnipresent Screen that dominates so much of modern life. Just a thought.
– Mike Lorenz
I don’t know if I would call this an atrocity, but the video maker/father’s description is totally ridiculous. “The video shows how magazines are now useless and impossible to understand, for digital natives. It shows real life clip of a 1-year old, growing among touch screens and print. And how the latter becomes irrelevant.” No, no it doesn’t show that at all.
Of course print is irrelevant to an illiterate baby. There were no halcyon days when babies loved to sit and leaf through magazines absorbing their content. And a baby doesn’t actually use an ipad as a tool, a baby uses it like an activity center. She swipes and pinches and colors change. Of course it’s amusing to her. She’s in the sensorimotor period of development and a magazine can only be flipped and crumbled which is kind of interesting, but less interesting than the ipad which has a UI well suited to her limited motor skills.
The whole digital natives concept is nonsense and this one year old is not exhibiting any behavior different from the trial and error experimentation we’d expect to see if she was interacting with any other new stimulus.
It’s like the first time a parent in the early 20th century saw her child hear grandma’s voice in the telephone, and then picked up a book and held it to her ear. The baby wasn’t some telephony native for whom written communication was obsolete, she was just a baby with finite schema testing her world.
I’ve been teaching on and off at a local Waldorf-inspired high school, and the technology question is being weighed heavily (as it is in virtually every high school right now). Has technology simply become a distraction to learning, instead of a tool for or support for it?
One administrator noted tellingly, “Nobody’s making out in the hallway anymore”. I found that telling – their free time has been absorbed in texting, et al. Also, less card playing, singing, hooliganism or group bonding of any kind. But at the same time, in our discussions the question always seems to come back to a recognition that it’s not the technology that is the problem, it’s an individuals personal ability to use or refuse that technology at will.
I suppose that goes for everything from television to iWhatnots to robo-soldiers to printing presses pens and swords….
@apethought
def agree that was edited in an obviously manipulative manner, and clearly that kid was pulling at a perfume sample in one shot and not trying to “swipe” the page. but on another level that muscle memory and fantasy/reality confusion has been observed in hardcore gamers “coming-down” where the virtual environment ui is habitualized and they catch themselves trying to manipulate irl (in real life) the same way. id hate to see the effects someone like this kid will have if the lifestyle continues, aka complete submersion in asofyet unknown emerging drug cultures. maybe we really get precogs reminiscent of minority report from all this? or worse?
@lagavulin
ive noticed a sharp rise in that kind of isolationism and alienation and pseudo-sociopathy on a scale i didnt think was possible, maybe its just my circles. seems to me to line up perfectly w/ the popularization of “anonymous” and the whole wikileaks “hacker” bit. as for the individuals personal ability or responsibility, i believe its the emergence of new “super-marketing” methods that slip under normal cognitive filters, like the apple focus group, or modern news coverage visuals, sports coverage too, good double-blinds used. the issue is not ads using these methods, but the integration into the products themselves, where the marketing strategy is used to make the product as addicting physiologically as possible. http://www.cracked.com/article_18461_5-creepy-ways-video-games-are-trying-to-get-you-addicted.html
the classic skinner box is used in this article, and i think it holds true, its what ive heard said about addicts. “the addiction is a disease the individual has, not something that makes them a bad person, or a choice, just a disease.” i think the combination of neuroplastic atrophy of face-to-face interaction and the emotional/social intelligence that accompanies it, combined w/ the addictive nature of the new culture, or just re-weaponized western culture after the whole hippy love-fest flower power thing died down, is going nowhere good, far to fast. so getting back to it, as human primates, our own addictive nature is being subverted against us, and very much similar to modern internet porn addiction, new and broad frontiers of neurochemical unhealth and disease frontiers are opening up across the board. fun.
if youll excuse my wackiness here at the end, i suspect alot of these could be directly linked to new intelligence methodologies developed in population subversion/control, and/or emulated/handed down by derp “ancient aliums” as the kiddies say. godamn conspiritainment. i think it goes something like “infiltrate, subvert, destroy” or thereabouts. these exact topics have been the subject of intense study for decades now, especially interesting to the top 1/2%.
im not sure what im getting at here, but i think its that alot of parents are just as confused as their kids about what is safe and/or healthy in our modern age, and as a species we are running into alot of problems that have never before been witnessed in ALL of human history, as for long term consequences? maybe the lower top 1/2% will figure it out while they scuttle to become the new top 1/2%. or 1/4% as time passes.
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“For my 1 year old daughter, a magazine is an iPad that does not work. It will remain so for her whole life. Steve Jobs has coded a part of her OS.”
That is phenomenally sad statement for a parent to make, on a variety of levels. I have an idea for this, apparently, concerned mother: Maybe you shouldn’t let a child who is still making very basic cognitive connections between her mind and the world around her play with a FUCKING IPAD!!!! Maybe, just maybe, there is such a thing as being too young (and therefore not yet developmentally ready) to interact with the omnipresent Screen that dominates so much of modern life. Just a thought.
– Mike Lorenz
I don’t know if I would call this an atrocity, but the video maker/father’s description is totally ridiculous. “The video shows how magazines are now useless and impossible to understand, for digital natives. It shows real life clip of a 1-year old, growing among touch screens and print. And how the latter becomes irrelevant.” No, no it doesn’t show that at all.
Of course print is irrelevant to an illiterate baby. There were no halcyon days when babies loved to sit and leaf through magazines absorbing their content. And a baby doesn’t actually use an ipad as a tool, a baby uses it like an activity center. She swipes and pinches and colors change. Of course it’s amusing to her. She’s in the sensorimotor period of development and a magazine can only be flipped and crumbled which is kind of interesting, but less interesting than the ipad which has a UI well suited to her limited motor skills.
The whole digital natives concept is nonsense and this one year old is not exhibiting any behavior different from the trial and error experimentation we’d expect to see if she was interacting with any other new stimulus.
It’s like the first time a parent in the early 20th century saw her child hear grandma’s voice in the telephone, and then picked up a book and held it to her ear. The baby wasn’t some telephony native for whom written communication was obsolete, she was just a baby with finite schema testing her world.
Well spoken, apethought.
I’ve been teaching on and off at a local Waldorf-inspired high school, and the technology question is being weighed heavily (as it is in virtually every high school right now). Has technology simply become a distraction to learning, instead of a tool for or support for it?
One administrator noted tellingly, “Nobody’s making out in the hallway anymore”. I found that telling – their free time has been absorbed in texting, et al. Also, less card playing, singing, hooliganism or group bonding of any kind. But at the same time, in our discussions the question always seems to come back to a recognition that it’s not the technology that is the problem, it’s an individuals personal ability to use or refuse that technology at will.
I suppose that goes for everything from television to iWhatnots to robo-soldiers to printing presses pens and swords….
i have mixed feelings bout this, and heres why.
@apethought
def agree that was edited in an obviously manipulative manner, and clearly that kid was pulling at a perfume sample in one shot and not trying to “swipe” the page. but on another level that muscle memory and fantasy/reality confusion has been observed in hardcore gamers “coming-down” where the virtual environment ui is habitualized and they catch themselves trying to manipulate irl (in real life) the same way. id hate to see the effects someone like this kid will have if the lifestyle continues, aka complete submersion in asofyet unknown emerging drug cultures. maybe we really get precogs reminiscent of minority report from all this? or worse?
@lagavulin
ive noticed a sharp rise in that kind of isolationism and alienation and pseudo-sociopathy on a scale i didnt think was possible, maybe its just my circles. seems to me to line up perfectly w/ the popularization of “anonymous” and the whole wikileaks “hacker” bit. as for the individuals personal ability or responsibility, i believe its the emergence of new “super-marketing” methods that slip under normal cognitive filters, like the apple focus group, or modern news coverage visuals, sports coverage too, good double-blinds used. the issue is not ads using these methods, but the integration into the products themselves, where the marketing strategy is used to make the product as addicting physiologically as possible.
http://www.cracked.com/article_18461_5-creepy-ways-video-games-are-trying-to-get-you-addicted.html
the classic skinner box is used in this article, and i think it holds true, its what ive heard said about addicts. “the addiction is a disease the individual has, not something that makes them a bad person, or a choice, just a disease.” i think the combination of neuroplastic atrophy of face-to-face interaction and the emotional/social intelligence that accompanies it, combined w/ the addictive nature of the new culture, or just re-weaponized western culture after the whole hippy love-fest flower power thing died down, is going nowhere good, far to fast. so getting back to it, as human primates, our own addictive nature is being subverted against us, and very much similar to modern internet porn addiction, new and broad frontiers of neurochemical unhealth and disease frontiers are opening up across the board. fun.
if youll excuse my wackiness here at the end, i suspect alot of these could be directly linked to new intelligence methodologies developed in population subversion/control, and/or emulated/handed down by derp “ancient aliums” as the kiddies say. godamn conspiritainment. i think it goes something like “infiltrate, subvert, destroy” or thereabouts. these exact topics have been the subject of intense study for decades now, especially interesting to the top 1/2%.
im not sure what im getting at here, but i think its that alot of parents are just as confused as their kids about what is safe and/or healthy in our modern age, and as a species we are running into alot of problems that have never before been witnessed in ALL of human history, as for long term consequences? maybe the lower top 1/2% will figure it out while they scuttle to become the new top 1/2%. or 1/4% as time passes.